That is why we are interested in this specific legislation before the Commission, because those containers, we feel, will play an important part in the commerce between the mainland and Hawaii. The joint through rate principle is certainly one that we are interested in.

Mr. HOFF. Thank you.

Senator BARTLETT. Thank you, Mr. Starr, and on Mr. Hoff's behalf, the chairman wants to say that he couldn't have left such an impression because he didn't create it originally.

Senator Crossley? The committee welcomes you, Senator, and will be most happy to hear from you.

STATEMENT OF RANDOLPH CROSSLEY, SENATOR, STATE OF HAWAII SENATE

Mr. CROSSLEY. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. My name is Randolph Crossley. I am a State senator of the State of Hawaii, and also a businessman in this community. I would like to first say how delighted I am to be addressing a U.S. Senator from Alaska, and to look into the familiar face of Oren Long as a U.S. Senator from Hawaii. This really gives us a great deal of pride and satisfaction.

Senator BARTLETT. Thank you, sir.

Mr. CROSSLEY. I would not address myself to S. 2451 and S. 2452 because these have not come before our committee. I am chairman of the committee on natural resources, utilities, and transportation, for the senate, and we did not get these until too late for any discussion by the committee. I would have a personal observation on them, if Ï may, a little later. I would like to address myself first of all to a resolution, a House Concurrent Resolution 33, senate draft 1, which passed both houses and, if I may, I would submit the document and simply summarize it.

This relates to the contribution toward the highway system by the Federal Government and what we would like very much to get into your record is how we in Hawaii consider this chain of islands and the highway system.

We feel that the transportation system makes these islands integral one to the other and that while we are not locked by land, we are locked by a highway system, whether it be by air or by sea, and, therefore, we have asked that consideration be given in the allocation of funds to a highway system that would take in the entire length and breadth of these islands as part of that in working out the contributions.

That is the first point to which I would like to speak and I would like to submit this concurrent resolution.

Senator BARTLETT. The resolution, Senator Crossley, will be accepted and placed in the record.

(The document referred to is as follows:)

MATSON NAVIGATION Co.

Freight rate comparison on selected commodities, San Francisco/Honolulu1 (2,091 nautical miles) versus Seattle/Nome, Alaska' (2,288 nautical miles)

1 Rates effective Sept. 14, 1959.

? Does not include terminal charges at Seattle and Nome lighterage charges.

3 Per 2,000 pounds or 40 cubic feet, whichever yields the greater amount of revenue.

4 Chevrolet (4 door) 8-cylinder Bel-Air sedan (3,620 pounds-555 cubic feet) rate converted from $11.20 per 100 pounds or $29.22 per 40 cubic feet.

Per 40 cubic feet.

$25.76 per 2,000 pounds at rate converted to weight basis on average of 50 cubic feet per 2,000 pounds. 7 Per 2,000 pounds.

8 Per 1,000 feet board measure.

• Per 1,000 feet board measure rate converted to tons on basis of 480 board feet per ton.

Source: Matson Navigation Co. freight tariffs Nos. 1-N and 2-P, FMB-F Nos. 87 and 88, respectively. Alaska Steamship Co. freight tariff No. 797, FMB-F. No. 93.

Freight rate comparison on selected commodities, San Francisco/Honolulu1 (2,091 nautical miles) versus New York/San Juan, P,R., (1,399 nautical miles)

1 Rates effective September 14, 1959,

Per 2,000 pounds or 40 cubic feet, whichever yields the greater revenue.

Per 40 cubic feet.

4 Per 2,000 pounds.

Per 1,000 feet board measure.

Per 1,000 feet board measure rate converted to tons on basis of 480 board feet per ton.

Source: Matson Navigation Co. freight tariffs No. 1-N and 2-P, FMB-F. No. 87 and No. 88 respec tively. United States Atlantic & Gulf-Puerto Rico Conference outward freight tariff No. 7, FMBF. No. 13.

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 33

(H.D. 1; S.D. 1)

Whereas revenues realized from Federal fuel taxes are appropriated for Federal contributions and subsidies for highway systems in the United States; and

Whereas appropriations for Federal contributions and subsidies for highway systems in the United States are distributed pursuant to the provisions of title 23 of the United States Code; and

Whereas the ultimate purpose of the said title 23 is to promote intrastate and interstate commerce and national and civil defense; and

Whereas Hawaii, as a Territory, was not included with the various States insofar as the provisions of the said title 23 relating to Federal contributions and subsidies for a National System of Interstate and Defense Highways were concerned, despite the fact that its people were subjected to the same Federal fuel taxes as were the people of the various States; and

Whereas the Highway Appropriations Act recently passed by the 86th Congress of the United States provides in part that:

"The Secretary of Commerce is authorized and directed to make a study of the need for extension of the National System of Interstate and Defense Highways within the States of Alaska and Hawaii and report the results of such study to the Congress within 10 days subsequent to January 4, 1960"; and

Whereas the establishment of a highway system connecting all of the communities within any State would promote intrastate and interstate commerce and national and civil defense; and

Whereas there is no highway system connecting all of the communities within the State of Hawaii; and

Whereas a highway system consisting of roads connecting all of the communities in the State of Hawaii is physically impossible because Hawaii "consists of the most beautiful fleet of islands that lie anchored in any ocean"; and

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION No. 33, H. Doc. 1, S. Doc. 1, PAGE 2 Whereas the Federal Government has considered bridges spanning bodies of water, tunnels running beneath bodies of water and the routes of ferries operating over bodies of water as parts of the highway systems of various continental States pursuant to the provisions of the said title 23; and

Whereas the most feasible method of establishing a highway system connecting all of the communities within the State of Hawaii would involve the establishment of an interisland ferry system; and

Whereas an interisland ferry system connecting the various islands comprising the State of Hawaii would be a part of its highway system in the fullest and truest sense of the term: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives of the First Legislature of the State of Hawaii, first special session of 1959, the Senate concurring, That the Commissioner of Public Roads of the United States, the Federal Highway Administrator of the United States, the Secretary of Commerce of the United States, the President of the United States, the Public Works Committee of the Senate of the United States, and the 86th Congress of the United States be respectfully requested to give favorable consideration to:

1. Include the State of Hawaii with the other States insofar as the provisions of title 23 of the United States Code relating to a national system of interstate and defense highways are concerned;

2. Allow the State of Hawaii credit for Federal fuel taxes paid by its people during the period when Hawaii was a territory and was excluded from the provisions of the said title 23 relating to a national system of interstate and defense highways insofar as future Federal contributions to or subsidies for highways are concerned; and

3. Include any interisland ferry system connecting the islands comprising the State of Hawaii as a part of its highway system insofar as the provisions of the said title 23 are concerned; and be it further

Resolved, That duly authenticated copies of this concurrent resolution be forwarded to the Commissioner of Public Roads of the United States, the Federal Highway Administrator of the United States, the Secretary of Commerce of the United States, the President of the United States, the Public Works Committee of the Senate of the 86th Congress of the United States, U.S. Senator Hiram L. Fong, U.S. Senator Oren E. Long, U.S. Congressman Daniel K. Inouye, the President of the U.S. Senate and the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Mr. CROSSLEY. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. The second resolution deals with Senate Resolution No. 22, and deals with a common fare plan. This is a rather short resolution. If I may, so that I can speak better to it, I would like to read it.

Senator BARTLETT. We are glad to hear it.
Mr. CROSSLEY (reading):

Whereas the tourist business is a major element in the fast growing economy of the State of Hawaii; and

Whereas air transportation is a popular and ever-growing mode of travel to and from the State of Hawaii; and

Whereas treating the several islands of the State of Hawaii as a single unit will best increase the total tourist business to the benefit of all the islands and air transportation to and between the islands; and

Whereas during the 10 years that have elapsed since the initial review of the common fare plan by the Civil Aeronautics Board, there has been a tremendous increase in neighbor island air traffic, commensurate with the economic growth of the islands; and

Whereas the continent of Europe is favored by economy rates and other service advantages not enjoyed by tourists coming to these fair islands: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate of the First Legislature of the State of Hawaii, That this body by means of this resolution record with the Civil Aeronautics Board its sentiments in favor of a public hearing in Honolulu, Hawaii, for the purpose of reexamining and establishing a common fare plan, and/or economy rates and other service advantages for air travel between the west coast and all points in the Hawaiian Islands; and be it further

Resolved, That duly certified copies of this resolution be transmitted to the chairman and members of the Civil Aeronautics Board, the President of the United States, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Interior, the Secretary of Commerce, the Governor of Hawaii, Hawaii Senators Hiram L. Fong, and Oren E. Long and Hawaii Congressman Daniel K. Inouye.

If I may, I would also like to present a copy of this to be included with the record.

Senator BARTLETT. Yes.

(The document referred to is as follows:)

SENATE RESOLUTION No. 22

Whereas the tourist business is a major element in the fast growing economy of the State of Hawaii; and

Whereas air transportation is a popular and ever growing mode of travel to and from the State of Hawaii; and

Whereas treating the several islands of the State of Hawaii as a single unit will best increase the total tourist business to the benefit of all the islands and air transportation to and between the islands; and

Whereas, during the 10 years that have elapsed since the initial review of the common fare plan by the Civil Aeronautics Board, there has been a tremendous increase in neighbor island air traffic, commensurate with the economic growth of the islands; and

Whereas the continent of Europe is favored by economy rates and other service advantages not enjoyed by tourists coming to these fair islands; Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate of the First Legislature of the State of Hawaii, That this body by means of this resolution record with the Civil Aeronautics Board its sentiments in favor of a public hearing in Honolulu, Hawaii, for the purpose of reexamining and establishing a common fare plan, and/or economy rates and other service advantages for air travel between the west coast and all points in the Hawaiian Islands; and be it further

Resolved, That duly certified copies of this resolution be transmitted to the chairman and members of the Civil Aeronautics Board, the President of the United States, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Interior, the Secretary of Commerce, the Governor of Hawaii, Hawaii Senators Hiram L. Fong and Oren E. Long and Hawaii Congressman Daniel K. Inouye. Offered by:

RANDOLPH CROSSLEY,
FRANCES M. CHING,
MARQUIS F. CALMER,

HONOLULU, HAWAП, October 1, 1959.

Mr. CROSSLEY. I would like to supplement this, Mr. Chairman, if I may, with a notation from the Honolulu Advertiser dated Wednesday, November 18, this morning.

United Air Lines plans cut in San Diego fare."

Now, what this means in effect is that United Air Lines will reduce its first-class air fares between San Diego and Honolulu by 5 percent effective December 10. This means that they have made one more city a part of a common fare plan as far as the mainland is concerned. This is what we are asking they review as far as these islands are concerned. We know that the economic growth of the outside islands, the neighbor islands, is greatly dependent upon these areas becoming destination islands.

We feel with a common-fare plan there will be a greater tendency of many of the airlines to set down first at our southernmost island and nearest to the mainland, the island of Hawaii, and the passengers disembarking there on a common fare on into Honolulu would then increase the traffic to that island, to the intervening islands, Maui, Molokai, and then on into Oahu. We feel that there is a problem in the handling of the Island of Kauai being beyond this central distribution point but with a common-fare plan that would allow at least one-way tariff to that island as part of the whole, it would benefit the economy of all of the islands and be of far greater service to the traveling public.

Senator BARTLETT. Does that conclude your statement, Senator?
Mr. CROSSLEY. That concludes the statement.

Senator BARTLETT. Thank you. Senator Long?

Senator LONG. I am concerned, Senator, with the possible effect of that regulation on our two local carriers, our interisland carriers, Aloha and Hawaiian Airlines. Would it be negative in its effect on their business? I am all in favor of the common fare, but I just wondered whether consideration had been given to that.

Mr. CROSSLEY. Well, Senator Long, we would have to let the airlines speak for themselves, but such testimony as we have before our committee was all in support of this plan by the local airlines. It was our feeling that they probably would be able to work out most advantageously in sort of a shuttle service with the mainland carriers. Senator LONG. That answers it sufficiently and very satisfactorily. I just wanted to know that it had been discussed.

Mr. CROSSLEY. It has been.

Senator LONG. Thank you.

Senator BARTLETT, Senator Crossley, let me see if I get this common-fare proposal correctly. The plane would leave San Francisco for Hawaii. Where would it land first?

Mr. CROSSLEY. Well, it could have many destination points. It could have either Hilo, Hawaii, or Honolulu on the island of Oahu. It could even have Kauai or Maui. They could then determine their own destination point.

Senator BARTLETT. But it does contemplate the possibility at least, that the plane would leave San Francisco, go first to Hilo, discharge passengers, and then stop at the islands between Hawaii and Oahu and

Mr. CROSSLEY. Not necessarily that it would stop at all of the intervening islands, but it would make a first stop at Hilo and then proceed on into Honolulu.