can we not proceed with the order of the day and take up discussion for the good of the Society?

Mrs. DAVOL. I merely want to make a motion that all of those who have aided in any way by work during the SpanishAmerican war receive the thanks of this body and it be placed on record.

Seconded.

READER. Mrs. Davol: "That the thanks of this body be extended to those who have aided in any way during the Spanish-American war, and it be placed on record." [Applause.]

PRESIDENT GENERAL. Are you ready for the question? (Cries of "Question!") All in favor will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." It is carried.

("Order of the day!")

PRESIDENT GENERAL. Order of the day is called for.

Mrs. BROCKETT. May I start with the order of the day, the discussion for the good of the National Society? In reading over the Constitution, I find that we can do nothing in making Regents for other locations on our Board; consequently I would ask this Congress to consider a motion that I put before them; and when I state that we have in Cuba a great many American Daughters and others that would like to join us, as I have been informed through a State Regent who now is there that she has already distributed 30 application papers, you will understand that there are a good many there. I then make this motion, feeling that this is the best way, as this Congress then could credit the facts. I move that we have a Regent for Cuba, with the same privileges as a State Regent. Seconded; also by Mrs. McCartney.

READER. Mrs. Brockett moves that we have a Regent in Cuba, with the same privileges as a State Regent.

Miss PIKE. As Cuba is no part of this country, no part of the United States, we cannot very well have a State Regent for a foreign country.

Mrs. BROCKETT. You may all know, and I too know, that we have a large Chapter in Hawaii.

Miss PIKE. We can have Chapters but not a State Regent. Mrs. BROCKETT. I think those places need a little mother

ing; we have to do it here at times, and I do not see why we should not do it there.

Mrs. WALKER, of Illinois. I do not understand what the privileges of a State Regent are.

PRESIDENT GENERAL. That is in the motion.

READER. "Moved that we have a Regent for Cuba, with the same privileges as a State Regent."

Mrs. WALKER. Well, we don't understand that, Madam President.

PRESIDENT GENERAL. That was in the motion, Mrs. Walker. Are you ready for the question?

Mrs. MCLEAN. There is an old story that when two politicians met, one said to the other, "Why, you can't do so and so, it is unconstitutional." The other replied, "What is the constitution between friends?" I would not like that to apply to this Society, heartily as I would like to see the Society extended through all the provinces, whether ours or any other power's. It is not constitutional to have a State Regent in any part of the country which does not belong under the flag of our country. [Applause.]

Mrs BROCKETT. I was very particular in my motion in not calling her a State Regent, simply because I knew that was not constitutional; but I did feel that we should have some one to overlook this work in Cuba. It has appealed to me, and I feel that it is necessary.

Miss PIKE. May I offer an amendment, that we have a VicePresident General?

Miss FORSYTH. Article 6 of our Constitution says very clearly what has just been stated by Mrs. McLean of New York. It says the National Board of Management shall be composed of the active officers of the National Society, and a State Regent from each State or Territory, to be chosen by the delegates from each State or Territory to the National Congress at the annual meeting. Certainly we can hardly consider that we can go beyond these provisions.

Mrs. MCLEAN. I would suggest that the Board, or the VicePresident General in Charge of Organization have power to appoint such Chapter Regents as are needed in Cuba. I offer that as a suggestion.

Mrs. ATKINS. I rise to inquire if the sentiment of the word "territory" has not something to do with this question?

Mrs. MCCARTNEY. May I not ask if Cuba is not at present under the flag of the United States? What are we doing with Cuba but protecting it and holding over it the protecting folds of the flag until she can take care of herself? I do believe it will be wise to have a Regent or person in Cuba who can take care of the interests of the Daughters of the American Revolution.

A MEMBER. If Cuba is not United States territory, whose territory is it?

Mrs. THOMAS. I offer as an amendment to the amendment that the word "director" shall be used instead of "Regent." Mrs. BROCKETT. I accept the amendment.

PRESIDENT GENERAL. If there is no objection on the part of the house the word "director" will be substituted for the word "Regent." There is an objection.

Mrs. HILL. May I ask if Cuba is not a locality? It says in Article 7 that when 12 members of the Society shall be living in one locality they may, after formal authorization by the National Board of Management, organize a Chapter. They may elect a presiding officer, whose title will be Regent, and who will be a delegate to the Continental Congress of the National Society, a Secretary, a Registrar, and such other officers as may be required--(interrupted.)

PRESIDENT GENERAL. Sorry to interrupt you, Mrs. Hill, but the motion was on a State Regent, not a Chapter Regent. Mrs. HILL. Do they need a State Regent, without the Chapter Regent?

READER reads motion, "Moved that we have a Director for Cuba, with the same privileges as a State Regent."

A MEMBER. I second that motion.

PRESIDENT GENERAL. The question has been called for. All in favor will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." The motion seems to be lost. (Cries of "Division!") Division is called for. All in favor will please rise.

A MEMBER. When this is done may the motion be read again?

PRESIDENT GENERAL. It will be read again.

READER. "Moved that we have a Director for Cuba, with the same privileges as a State Regent."

Mrs. MCLEAN. I rise for information; is a negative vote now being called?

PRESIDENT GENERAL. No.

Mrs. MCLEAN. As ruled yesterday, it is in order to speak between. I merely wished to say that we cannot, no matter what our vote, amend our Constitution.

PRESIDENT GENERAL. Will you kindly state what there is in this that conflicts with the Constitution?

Mrs. MCLEAN. I think that if any officer is appointed from this Society with the privileges of a State Regent, she is a State Regent; there should be no misunderstanding on that point. If she has the privileges, she is or she is not. Now, a State Regent cannot be appointed in a foreign country while the Constitution stands as it now does.

Mrs. BROCKETT. May I ask if this Congress has the right to create a new office under the Constitution? If they have not, who has the right to? Another point: the only reason that I asked for this Regent to have the privileges of a State Regent is that she is over there, she is doing the work. When she should come to this country I think that Regent should have the privilege of coming and sitting with our Board of Management and going back to Cuba and telling them of the work here and we hearing of their work. I think we have a perfect right to do that.

A MEMBER. When Cuba becomes a State then we can have our State Regent, but we certainly cannot have it now. The ladies here to-day do not wish to act unconstitutionally, and that would be contrary to our Constitution and By-Laws. Let the Regent be there and be a Chapter Regent, and let her come here as such until it is known what Cuba is to be-a State, a power, or what.

Mrs. TIBBALS, of Connecticut. As I understand it, the United States is protecting Cuba, but Cuba does not belong to the United States at present. [Applause.]

Mrs. FOWLER. I rise for information. I would like to know by whose authority a Regent was appointed in Hawaii and a Chapter organized; why cannot this be done in the same

way? The Chapter was formed long before Hawaii was anexed.

A MEMBER. We took the Chapter in when we took Hawaii in. [Applause.]

Mrs. DAVOL. If there is a Chapter in Cuba, and that Chapter must have a Regent, is it not better to settle the matter in this way should she come to this country and bring with her any account of her Chapter there, could she not receive the courtesy of the Board of Management and be allowed to attend some of the Board meetings, and in that way tell you of her work and get instructions to help her until such time as they can have a State Regent or some other provision be made?

PRESIDENT GENERAL. The Chair rules that she could not attend a Board meeting, but she might come into the Board meeting, simply by courtesy.

Mrs. DAVOL. Simply by courtesy?

Miss PIKE. There is no one in this body or in the country that is more pleased and delighted that we own the territories that we have recently acquired, but we have not acquired Cuba, neither by purchase nor by consent of the people of Cuba; therefore we could not extend any jurisdiction over that country. When we appoint a State Regent, or elect a State Regent, we extend our jurisdiction over that portion of any country where we appoint that State Regent. We now have a right to put one in Hawaii; am not aware that we have a State Regent in Hawaii.

PRESIDENT GENERAL. Not a State Regent, Miss Pike.

Miss PIKE. We have the right to have Chapter Regents anywhere we please, but we have no right to appoint a State Regent in any country not under our jurisdiction. [Applause.] And when you say that you will have a Regent with the privileges of a State Regent, it is just the same as a State Regent. If she has all the privileges of a State Regent she is a State Regent, and it would be a very dangerous precedent if you could establish it, but it would be illegal. It would be illegal-a subsequent Congress would no doubt reverse that action if we passed it; but it would be a dangerous precedent, and I beg the ladies to reflect carefully before they