Miss HARVEY. Oh, but I have some more to say that she did not say. PRESIDENT GENERAL. We are in the midst of other business just now. The Chair is obliged to ask you to wait until the report is finished-when this report is finished. Second proposition, Mrs. Lindsay. Mrs. LINDSAY. (2) "To that end each Chapter of the Daughters of the Revolution Society shall become a Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution Society and all certificates of membership issued, and all records of such Chapters made, whilst Chapters of the Daughters of the Revolution Society, shall be treated as conclusive evidence of the facts and transactions they respectively certify and no other or additional evidences of the rights and privileges of the individual members of such Chapters or of the regularity of the organization of such Chapters, shall be demanded and no changes or modifications of such organizations shall be required except such, if any, as may be necessary to conform to the Constitution and By-Laws of the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution." Mrs. FOWLER. I move the adoption of that article. Seconded. Mrs. ROBERTS. May we have that read again? Mrs. LINDSAY reads again and adds, "Of course, Madam President, to that end refers to the first clause." PRESIDENT GENERAL. All in favor of the adoption of this clause will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." Carried. Mrs. LINDSAY. (3) "New members of the Chapters so admitted into the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution shall be received in accordance with its Constitution and By-Laws." Mrs. SLOCUM, of Colorado. I move the adoption of the third clause. Seconded. PRESIDENT GENERAL. All in favor of the adoption of this clause will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." Carried. Mrs. LINDSAY. (4) "The Chapters admitted from the Daughters of the Revolution Society shall be entitled to equal rights and to like representation in the Congress of the Daughters of the American Revolution Society with the Chapters originally organized as Chapters of said Society." Mrs. KENDALL, of Maine. I move the adoption of this clause. Seconded. PRESIDENT GENERAL. All in favor of the adoption of this clause will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." Carried. Mrs. LINDSAY. (5) "The records, National and State, of the Daughters of the Revolution Society shall be deposited with and become part and parcel of the records of the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, and shall be sacredly held and preserved in the condition in which they may be delivered and received, and shall be treated as conclusive evidence of the facts they certify." Miss WASHINGTON. I would like to move that that be adopted. Seconded. President GENERAL. All in favor of the adoption of this clause will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." Carried. Mrs. LINDSAY. (6) "Moneys in the treasuries of or belonging to the National and State organizations of the Daughters of the Revolution Society shall be disposed of as the said organizations may direct, the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution having no claim thereto.". Mrs. BALLINGER. I move the acceptance of that. Mrs. GIST. I move the adoption of that clause. PRESIDENT GENERAL. Mrs. Ballinger moved the acceptance of that clause; will Mrs. Gist second it? Mrs. GIST. I do. PRESIDENT GENERAL. It has been moved and seconded that the sixth clause be accepted; are you ready for the question? Miss MILLER. May that be read again? PRESIDENT GENERAL. Certainly, Miss Miller. Mrs. LINDSAY. Moneys in the treasuries of or belonging to National and State organizations of the Daughters of the Revolution Society shall be disposed of as the said organizations may direct, the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution having no claim thereto. Mrs. MCCARTNEY. Might I ask, Madam Chairman, if that excludes any initiation fee into the Society? Mrs. LINDSAY. It is moneys that have been collected in the past before they come to us. Miss MILLER. Might they not be asked to give that towards our Continental Hall? (Cries of "No.") PRESIDENT GENERAL. All in favor of the adoption of this clause will please say "aye;" opposed, "no." Carried. Mrs. LINDSAY. (7) "The members of the Daughters of the Revolution Society becoming members of the Daughters of the American Revolution Society through the admission of the Chapters of said Daughters of the Revolution Society, shall be entitled to continue the use of the badge of the Daughters of the Revolution Society and have the right to use the same in connection with the badge of the Daughters of the American Revolution Society." Mrs. EARLE. I move that that be accepted. Seconded. PRESIDENT GENERAL. Mrs. Lindsay, will you kindly read that last clause again? If the house will be very quiet, Mrs. Linday will read it again. Mrs. LINDSAY. The members of the Daughters of the Revolutionary Society becoming members of the Daughters of the American Revolution Society, through the admission of the Chapter of said Daughters of the Revolution Society, shall be entitled to continue the use of the badge of the Daughters of the Revolution Society and have the right to use the same in connection with the badge of the Daughters of the American Revolution Society. Mrs. Lyox. I move the adoption of that. Seconded. Mrs. BALLINGER. Is it in order to speak to the motion? If we permit the Daughters of the Revolution to wear that badge in connection with the Daughters of the American Revolution badge, we adopt it as part of our own. We incorporate it in this Society. We give it official sanction through this Society. Let them wear it all they please, let us say nothing about it, and then it will not be part and parcel of our organization. If we officially sanction it here, we take it into our own Society, and we ought not to do that. PRESIDENT GENERAL. Mrs. Lindsay will answer. Mrs. LINDSAY. How can we prevent a Daughter of the Revolution from wearing her badge? Mrs. BALLINGER. We do not. sanction her wearing it, therefore not giving it official recognition, and allowing the wearing of it alongside as part and parcel of our own, and equal to our insignia. They can wear it without that; they can wear it as a breastpin. Mrs. SLOCUM. Madam President, taking this report as it is read, I have not understood it as especially a sanction of another badge of this. Society, but rather a recognition of the insignia of the Society that may come into us, and which we recognize much have special associations for that large body of women whom we are very ready to welcome to our National Society provided we and they together can make such arrangements in our households so that the coming together will be entirely pleasant to both of us. I have not heard this explained in this way by the committee, but it is my understanding that it must have been their thought in so recognizing the insignia. Mrs. COLTON. General Sherman told me that when General Lee came to General Grant's tent to surrender, and offered his sword, General Grant said, "General, put on your sword." [Applause.] General Grant then gave orders to issue ration for the hungry soldiers and starving animals. [Applause.] PRESIDENT GENERAL. Are you ready for the question? Miss JOHNSTON. I would like to say that our insignia stands for something with 27,000 women. It cannot be as an adjunct. Let the Daughters of the Revolution preserve their's as a relic, but nothing should intrude upon our own. (Cries of "Question.") Mrs. TIBBALS. In allowing the Daughters of the Revolution to wear their badge, I consider it a compliment. It does not combine with the Daughters of the American Revolution. It is the same compliment that General Grant paid to General Lee. Though they wear their badge in memory of the past, they become united with us. Mrs. ROBERTS. It would nobless oblige on our part. seem to me that it is simply Mrs. WALWORTH. Madam President, I did not think that I could speak one word to you in this Congress except to read my report, but this touches us so nearly that we should take our sisters in. that I entreat you to let those ladies wear those badges, as almost every one of you now have some other badge on your breast. [Applause.] So let us keep those with our own. Mrs. RICHARDSON, of South Carolina. Madam President, I have only a few words to say, but it seems to me that it would be a very simple thing on our part and nothing can come to our organization in welcoming our sisters in, to preserve that badge as adding strength to our own organization. Mrs. CABANISS, of Alabama. The Colonial Dames did not ask the permission of any organization to wear their badge. The Daughters of the Revolution have every chance to wear their badge, but should we give them the right to wear it with our badge, to wear them both at the same time? (Cries of "Question.") Mrs. MCCARTNEY. Would it not be a mark of surrender to the Daughters of the American Revolution on the part of the Daughters of the Revolution. It seems to me it would be a wise thing to let them wear their badge. Mrs. WHITNEY, of Michigan. I should like to ask this: If we pass any resolution, whether they shall or shall not wear one or both badges, how are you going to enforce it? Our Daughters now in this organization, a great many do not wear the badge, a great many cannot afford to get it, but they are Daughters just the same. They say you have got to wear that badge. PRESIDENT GENERAL. The Chair will have to rule that it is not a question of "shall;" it is merely a question of "may." Mrs. WHITNEY. Might I say this in relation to the question, that if we invite them to come in, is it courtesy to say you shall or shall not? |