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and Astronautics. Subcommittee on Science ,

Research, and Development.
CENTRALIZATION OF FEDERAL SCIENCE ACTIVITIES

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON
SCIENCE, RESEARCH, AND DEVELOPMENT

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
SCIENCE AND ASTRONAUTICS
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FIRST CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

JULY 10, 22, 23, 24, 28, 29, 30, 31; OCTOBER 7, AND 9, 1969

[No. 10]

Printed for the use of the Committee on Science and Astronautics

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1969

33-257

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COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND ASTRONAUTICS

GEORGE P. MILLER, California, Chairman OLIN E. TEAGUE, Texas

JAMES G. FULTON, Pennsylvania JOSEPH E. KARTH, Minnesota

CHARLES A, MOSHER, Ohio KEN HECHLER, West Virginia

RICHARD L. ROUDEBUSH, Indiana EMILIO Q. DADDARIO, Connecticut

ALPHONZO BELL, California JOHN W. DAVIS, Georgia

THOMAS M. PELLY, Washington THOMAS N. DOWNING, Virginia

JOHN W. WYDLER, New York JOE D, WAGGONNER, JR., Louisiana GUY VANDER JAGT, Michigan DON FUQUA, Florida

LARRY WINN, JR., Kansas GEORGE E. BROWN, JR., California

JERRY L. PETTIS, California EARLE CABELL, Texas

D. E. (BUZ) LUKENS, Ohio BERTRAM L. PODELL, New York

ROBERT PRICE, Texas WAYNE N. ASPINALL, Colorado

LOWELL P. WEICKER, JR., Connecticut ROY A. TAYLOR, North Carolina

LOUIS FREY, JR., Florida HENRY HELSTOSKI, New Jersey

BARRY M. GOLDWATER, JR., California
MARIO BIAGGI, New York
JAMES W. SYMINGTON, Missouri
EDWARD I. KOCH, New York

CHARLES F. DUCANDER, Executive Director and Chief Counsel
John A. CARSTARPHEN, Jr., Chief Clerk and Counsel

PHILIP B. YEAGER, Counsel
FRANK R. HAMMILL, Jr., Counsel
W. H. BOONE, Technical Consultant
JAMES E. WILSON, Technical Consultant

RICHARD P. Hines, Staff Consultant
HAROLD A. GOULD, Technical Consultant
PHILIP P. DICKINSON, Technical Consultant
WILLIAM G. WELLS, Jr., Technical Consultant

K. GUILD NICHOLS, Jr., Staff Consultant
ELIZABETH S. KERNAN, Scientific Research Assistant

FRANK J. GIROUX, Clerk
DENIS C. QUIGLEY, Publications Clerk
RICHARD K. SHULLAW, Assistant Publications Clerk

JAMES A, ROSE, Jr., Minority stap

SUBCOMMITTEE ON SCIENCE, RESEARCH, AND DEVELOPMENT

EMILIO Q. DADDARIO, Connecticut, Chairman JOHN W. DAVIS, Georgia

ALPHONZO BELL, California JOE D. WAGGONNER, JR., Louisiana CHARLES A. MOSHER, Ohio GEORGE E. BROWN, JR., California

D. E. (BUZ) LUKENS, Ohio EARLE CABELL, Texas

LARRY WINN, JR., Kansas BERTRAM L. PODELL, New York

JERRY L, PETTIS, California JAMES W. SYMINGTON, Missouri

(II)

CK C 25 Nov 69

CONTENTS

July 10, 1969:

Dr. Lee A. DuBridge, Director, Office of Science and Technology ----

July 22, 1969:

Dr. Glenn T. Seaborg, Chairman, Atomic Energy Commission,

accompanied by Dr. Spofford English, Assistant General Manager

for Research and Development, Atomic Energy Commission..

Dr. Edward Wenk, Jr., executive secretary, National Council on

Marine Resources and Engineering Development.---

July 23, 1969:

Dr. Robert C. Seamans, Jr., Secretary of the Air Force, accompanied

by Col. William Bruce Arnold, Air Force Legislative Liaison; Col.

E. C. Mike Cook, military aide to the Secretary of the Air Force--

Dr. Myron Tribus, Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Science and

Technology, accompanied by Robert B. Ellert, Assistant General

Counsel, Department of Commerce-

Dwight A. Ink, Assistant Director, Bureau of the Budget, accompanied

by John D. Young, Director, Économics, Science, and Technology

Division, Clifford L. Berg, management analyst, Office of Executive

Management, Hugh F. Loweth, Assistant Director (General Sci-

ence), Economics, Science and Technology Division.---

July 24, 1969:

Dr. Hunter Dupree, professor of science history, Brown University--

Dr. Michael D. Reagan, professor of political science, University of

California at Riverside

Don K. Price, dean, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard

University

July 28, 1969:

Dr. Edward Wenk, executive secretary, National Council on Marine

Resources and Engineering Development..

Dr. Philip Handler, president, National Academy of Sciences.--

July 29, 1969:

Dr. Samuel Lenher, vice president and adviser on manufacturing and

engineering, E. I. du Pont de Nemours & Co.--.

Dr. William J. Harris, Jr., assistant director, technology, Columbus

Laboratories, Battelle Memorial Institute, accompanied by Mr.

Lederman

July 30, 1969:

Dr. Ivan L. Bennett, director, New York University Medical Center..

Dr. James A. Shannon, Special Assistant to the President, National

Academy of Sciences...

July 31, 1969:

Dr. Franklin A. Long, vice president for research and advanced studies,

Cornell University-..

Gen. Bernard Schriever, Schriever & Associates -

Dr. Eric Walker, president, National Academy of Engineering -

October 7, 1969:

Dr. E. R. Piore, vice president and chief scientist, International Busi-

ness Machines Corporation...

Dr. Barnaby C. Keeney, Chairman, National Endowment for the

Humanities.

October 9, 1969:

Dr. H. Guyford Stever, president, Carnegie-Mellon University-...

APPENDIXES

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Appendix A-Biographies of witnesses:

Ivan L. Bennett, Jr.--.
Lee A. DuBridge,
Anderson Hunter Dupree -
Philip Handler..
William J. Harris, Jr..
Dwight A. Ink..
Barnaby C. Keeney
Samuel Lenher..
Franklin A. Long-
E. R. Piore.---
Don K. Price..
Michael D. Reagan..
B. A. Schriever.-
Glenn T. Seaborg--
Robert Channing Seamans, Jr.
James A. Shannon.-
Horton Guyford Stever.
Myron Tribus.
Eric A. Walker...

Edward Wenk, Jr...
Appendix 5—Statements-Letters from witnesses unable to be present:

Roy L. Ash; Litton Industries...
J. B. Fisk; Bell Telephone Laboratories..

Harold Brown; California Institute of Technology
Appendix C—Communications:

William Van Royen; University of North Carolina..
Otto G. Franz; Lowell Observatory ---
Morton M. Pavane, Air Force Systems Command..

Richard Myrick; Performance Research, Inc.--
Appendix D–Centralization Proposals Appearing in Current Literature:

"The Government of Science," by Harvey Brooks, Dean, Engineer

ing and Applied Physics, Harvard University.
“Establish a Commission on the Organization and Management of

the Executive Branch”; hearings before the subcommittee on
Executive Reorganization, Senate Committee on Government

Operations
“United States Science Policy: Its Health and Future Direction”; by

Donald F. Hornig, vice president, Eastman Kodak Co.--Do We Need a Department of Science and Technology,” by Her

bert Roback, Staff Administrator, Military Operations Subcom

mittee, House Committee on Government Operations.
Appendix E-"The New Priesthood— The Scientific Elite and the Uses of

Power, by Ralph E. Lapp-----
Appendix F-"The Politics of Research,” by Richard J. Barber..
Appendix G-"Science and Government,” by William D. Carey, Assistant

Director of the Bureau of the Budget-
Appendix H-"Rethinking our Scientific Objectives,” by Jerome B.

Wiesner, provost, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Appendix I—"The Constitutionalization of Science,” by Harvey Wheeler,

Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions -
Appendix J—"The Government-University Partnerships in Graduate

Education," by Glenn T. Seaborg, Chairman, U.S. Atomic Energy Com-
mission.

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